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Musicians wages - the great debate...

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Last updated: May 2026

Recently it seems like “the” hot topic is how much musicians get paid, so I thought I’d share my thoughts and experiences for anyone that is interested…

My background as a professional pianist

To give you a bit of background, I am joint-founder of www.lastminutemusicians.com, the UK’s leading entertainment directory and have been performing as a professional pianist for more than 20 years.

At the age of 6 I started out trying to learn the violin and (thank goodness!) moved on to piano when I was about 9.

Whilst at school I made the most of the local music services, rehearsing weekly with a whole variety of ensembles, including my town and county youth jazz orchestras, school wind band (where I played percussion) and even our sixth form male voice choir!

After school I was lucky enough to be appointed conductor of my local youth choir as well as the Bournemouth University big band.

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Whilst I can’t remember my very first paid gig, I have a memory of performing with a funk band in a local pub when I was about 15 – I’m sure that wouldn’t be allowed these days..!

As a young musician starting out I was advised by my uncle, who happened to be Musicians Union branch secretary at the time, to say yes to pretty much everything as that’s the way to build up experience whilst improving – great advice for anyone starting out.

My first regular gig was at a seaside fish restaurant performing on a Friday and Saturday evening. With the help of my uncle, I negotiated a fee of £65 for 2 x 1 hour sets which I was quite happy with as a young musician.

This was in the late ’90s – I can’t remember what the musicians union suggested rates were at the time, but I think we checked that they were in line with their rates at the time.

Musicians Union recommended live rates

In May 2026 the Musicians Union updated their recommended live rates as follows:

• Casual engagements for groups performing in pubs and clubs for up to 3 hours:
£167.16 
(per musician)

• Casual engagements for groups performing at functions of up to 4 hours: 
£222.88
(per musician)

There are also various extras like travel expenses, setting up time, overtime, porterage etc. that should be added to these fees.
See the full breakdown

UK Musicians for Gigs Facebook group discussion about musician pay rates

What other musicians think about gig pay

On our Facebook group UK Musicians for Gigs we had a whole variety of reactions to the new rates, for instance:

I remember the days of those pink MU contracts when every pub had a band on a  weekend and many throughout the week and local pub entertainers made a decent living. Those days have gone – so many pubs have closed and the ones that remain don’t make enough to pay live entertainment what they should. In Bristol there are so many bands and solo acts who would like to get paid but prefer to play more often even if it’s for free. The Musicians union is now really only representing session musicians – the rest they don’t have a clue about!

Vincent Brown

Those rates would be laughed at in my neck of the woods, you’d never get a gig again. Lucky to get half those rates.

Dave Smith

We decided a little while back, perhaps before the “recession”, that a few fewer gigs at a slightly higher price was a good aim – less travel etc meant the end money was close, for less effort. The recession has meant people cutting back, what they will hire and what they will pay, so keeping the price up is really hard.  It’s not only that someone will always work for less than you, it’s also that some money is better than none – which is of course what keeps the price down too.  And it’s not always true that a £2k band will make the crowd any more pleased than a £500 band.  Or we get to the position where someone will spend their budget on 4-piece rather than 6 or 7  – more money for those 4, fewer musicians paying the rent…so, get a good trio going and keep the money up??

Sean McBride

Time the MU got real. If any of us have the least possible chance of achieving these rates, then please let me know how it’s done? Your lucky if you can get £80 to £90 up here in the north, different world in the south I suppose?

Peter Brent

Getting started in the London music scene

To continue my story, when I was about 19 I moved to London to attend Trinity College of Music. By this time I’d been performing quite a lot at local venues so I felt confident approaching venues in London to introduce myself.

I quickly learned that the competition is fairly high and often venues are inundated with CDs and promo packs from musicians.

The best paid gigs seemed to be weddings, private events and corporate events, so we sat down and worked out a way to get noticed.

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This resulted in the birth of www.lastminutemusicians.com in 2003, now used to organise events daily by over 2500 customers. Our musicians have performed at a massive variety of events and occasions, including the Royal Wedding and the London Olympics. We even had a sax player booked to wake up the housemates on a hit reality TV show!

As I almost exclusively perform at private events, I am pleased to report I have been charging Musicians Union rates for almost every gig I’ve played. I now charge higher rates than my peers as I feel after 18 years performing at over 2000 events I feel my level of skill and experience are worth it. 

For example, I would expect to pay a lot more to a piano teacher per hour the better their level of skill and experience – I’d expect to pay maybe £50 for an hour for your average teacher, but would also quite happily sell my car for just one lesson from say Herbie Hancock!

What factors affect musician fees?

I think musicians fees mainly tend to be affected by the following factors:

  • Location (areas like London have high demand therefore higher wages)
  • Skill level / experience (the higher your level of skill & experience the better the product)
  • Reviews (lots of positive reviews from past clients should helps justify higher fees)
  • Equipment (the larger the equipment setup the more effort involved which drives up the price)

Having set prices available online has been a good way to ensure continuity and seems to help clients feel like they have to pay the same as everyone else instead of presuming you will negotiate down to what they want to pay. For more advice on this, read our guide to negotiating with clients.

Different levels of musician

In my experience, most musicians tend to fall into one of the following categories:

  • Beginner / enthusiast
  • Amateur / “hobby” musicians
  • Semi-pro  / “weekend warriors”!
  • Pro

Arguably there should be different rates for the different categories of musician, but who would decide who is in which category!?

In my experience musicians tend to be fairly critical of each other and obviously it’s a very subjective topic.

If you have any comments on this topic, please let us know below…

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13 comments
  1. Adam HughesApril 20, 2015
    By the way you can see my profiles here: https://www.lastminutemusicians.com/members/cocktail_pianists.html (solo) https://www.lastminutemusicians.com/members/jazz_trio.html (jazz trio)
  2. Sue@scherzandoApril 20, 2015
    Hi Adam, very interested to read your comments. I started in the profession nearly 40 years ago when the MU set the rates and you had to have a Union Card to work. I played professionally in orchestras throughout the UK. Much of that work no longer exists and even the top orchestras have cut down on full time members, so it's free-lance if you can get it. I wonder how young players just starting out mange these days. I don't play with orchestra much now but teach and have a Quartet/Trio/Duo for weddings and functions. We were doing fine last year (most of our work through your site) but this year we are really struggling, both enquiries and bookings down. The fact is I can't afford to play for nothing (music is my job, not a hobby). Nobody I know locally is under-cutting prices BUT the big problem seems to be the Conservatoire booking out students to do the work at a much lower rates. This could never have happened when I was a student - the Union would have stopped it. Whilst I am all for students and young players gaining experience (and I have helped many), if the work is devalued by under-cutting there will be no profession for them to go to when they finish studying. Basically, I have come to the conclusion that the classical music "profession" has largely become an amateur activity outside the main cities. Only the big names and public funded orchestras get paid properly. It is very sad.
    1. Adam HughesApril 26, 2015
      Hi Sue, thanks for your comment, and sorry to hear things aren't as busy for you this year. I just checked and you've had 8 enquiries from us so far this year (one a fortnight) plus lots of very targeted hits to your web site, so from this end it looks like your profile is still doing well. If you want to discuss further please do get in touch - adam@lastminutemusicians.com thanks :)
    2. DomJanuary 13, 2019
      Absolutely. And it is as valid in 2019 as it was in 2015 when you posted. It is even worse today. And the reason you give (young players out of college cutting down fees) should have been a strong concern to the MU but....
  3. Barnaby ThwaitesApril 26, 2015
    Hi Adam thanks for the info. In yr table re MU rates u didnt specify if thats the rate per person or per band , its the former. Everyone will have different experiences but there no way at all pubs in my area will pay that. There are simply too many competent bands for the demand. I recently downloaded the "MU Live Music Kit" and see if that gives some hints about how to these band affairs better. I see this is written for venues not musicians but nevertheless might help us musicians pitch ourselves better.
    1. Adam HughesApril 26, 2015
      Thanks for pointing that out - I've just edited the article to include "per musician". Yes I agree with your points - also the standard / quality of both musicians and venues varies massively in my opinion so rates are always going to be up for discussion! :)
  4. Jamie GoddardApril 27, 2015
    Great article Adam, I really enjoyed reading it. It's great to get a wide range of views. I can understand views from both sides as a performer and band leader having worked my way from the bottom to the middle or maybe a bit higher. The rates are hard to gauge as gigs are all so different. The MU rates are just a guide but there are so many types of gigs, it's a hard thing to implement. I have always been a bit of a YES man and it's got me all over the world somehow and have experienced a lot in the music business over the last 20 years I recently performed an evening wedding reception with my band where I was asked to set up early before 2pm. As the band leader / manager, I explained that we would have to charge more money to arrive at the venue for 1230 ( 8 hours before our performance time and 5 hours before we needed to). I even mentioned the MU rates but to no avail. Who cares about them? After a few weeks we couldn't agree terms and it reached the stage where the client wouldn't budge on his budget. I asked for an extra £400 which is £80 per member for the extra 5 hours work. It became a take it or leave it situation and being a quiet month I agreed to an extra £100. I decided to take 2 unlucky band members to endure the 15 hours or extra work time. The band usually travel together but I asked the other 2 band members to arrive later to save their energy. I had to cover their fuel but sometimes I have to take the situation on the chin. Three of the band including me left home at 11am and returned home at 3am the next day. It was a hard days work but it was better than not working. I enjoyed it and got to see some old friends at the wedding too. The bride and groom loved it and I'm sure we'll get more bookings from being a YES man. No matter how experienced or good you are, the bills have to be paid and sometimes especially out of season it's a take it or leave it. MU member or not. It's hard for managers and band leaders to enforce these MU guide lines to customers, venues and booking agents. If one of my musicians I regularly use said I needed to give them the MU rate for every gig it would create an uneasy situation. I like YES men to work for me too. It's simply not possible to apply these rates to all gigs in the UK and especially overseas gigs. You have to get what you can get and try to pay the band as much as you can whilst trying to make some money to live off too. Most musicians have the sense to agree to do a gig for a fee they are happy with. They can always say no. However if you say NO, people look elsewhere. Those YES men musicians seem to be the busy ones. The MU are a fantastic organisation and just bear in mind these payment guidelines are only applicable to some musicians performing a very specific type of engagement. Remember to enjoy what ever you chose to say YES or NO! Jamie Goddard http://www.thezoots.com
    1. AdamApril 29, 2015
      I think it just comes down to whether or not you are happy with the pay. It's a voluntary decision at the end of the day and no one is forcing anyone to works for less.
    2. DomJanuary 13, 2019
      Hi jamie, I am with you. You are a very experienced pro and your voice makes a difference. I have never understood why the MU has been systematically advising fees way above the true market trends. At least in the field of original bands and covers bands. This has been constant for the 20 years I have been a member. It seems like they have never had any idea of the real life of UK musicians and of the budget truly available to the average venue manager and bandleader. There is not even a question of being happy with the fee. It is a question, as you say, of paying the bills at the end of the month and feeding your family. Today in 2019 you are lucky to see a pub paying £250-300 for a whole band. As it was in 2000... I used to get very good money from 1995 to 2006 for my covers band in private and corporate events. Here and abroad. We were charging about 60% more than the average covers band of this period and were working all the time. But this was the result of working 8-10hrs daily to find those gigs. It was admin work and prospection... constantly.. for many years. My partner and I have never been paid for these hours really. Performing for us was the fun part. Guys who were telling me "I don't work for less than the MU rates" were not working much and were earning their money with a day job. I never hired them even if I could pay MU rates. The naked truth is that if you are not a successful songwriter or producer you cannot create a future in this business. Performing is fun but too irregular and when you stop performing.... you have nothing. Even if you are a fantastic player. And I have quite a few fantastic players in my friends... and in my bands. Music colleges don't teach that because they are too money oriented and, due to economical stress have lost their purpose. I know that you and I have been through the same process Jamie and so have thousands of other pros. But we do it because it seems that it is why we are here for... to play music. And it makes us and our audiences happy. This is our true reward. ML Dom
  5. AdamApril 29, 2015
    As more and more players put themselves out there you have to do more to stand out. Playing alone isn't enough. My personal philosophy is that being a musician falls under the category of being a performer. Musicians who really perform the music (dance etc.) are much more enjoyable to watch. I find a lot of musicians are boring to watch on stage and if they only spiced things up a bit or collaborated with dancers etc. they would get much more work. Most clients don't specifically want you. That's why you have to have a few different tricks up your sleeve to show why you're the one they want.
  6. SteveMay 13, 2021
    My set fee for a pub is £175 for 2x45min however I reduce this to £150 if they book me once a month. As always you get what you pay for and although many venues have tried amateurs or beer money musicians they usually come to the realisation that if you want an artist with pro gear, a diverse and extensive repertoire, insurance and be able to stay sober the whole night then they need to dig a little deeper. I’ve been playing as a full time professional since 2004 and apart from a little teaching on the side this will always be my main job and it pays well - but then - I’ve put in the hard work and certainly done my share of free gigs. :)
  7. Lee PryorMay 16, 2021
    Hello, I was a ‘week end’ warrior, playing/singing covers in pubs/social clubs for the best part of 18 years whilst engaged in an alternative employment. In 2012 I effectively went ‘pro’ as performance became my only source of earned income. I’ve had many conversations over the years about the level of fees that musicians should be earning, balanced by the reality of knowing what a publican could afford however all of these considerations are based on the assumption that the only people not engaged financially are the public. This I believe is what needs to change. There are several models that could be used to easily help share the cost of performance with the ‘punters’ other than direct ticketing. For example in this digital age it easy for a venue to increase product prices across the board by adjusting the mark up on the till. This can be done for a specific time period...say 45mins before to 15mins after the performance window. What we need is for all of us, plus maybe some help from the industry heavyweights, getting behind a re-education program so that a public who have never ‘given it a moments thought’ come to understand that the model they have taken for granted for so long, is no longer viable. I have spoken about the concepts that I have with several of the publicans local to me and whilst they can all see the merit they cannot overcome the fear that their customers will just go elsewhere. Unless we have joined up thinking from ‘live music’ pubs I fear that we are seeing the dying days of such venues.
  8. Sean GildeOctober 6, 2024
    Hmm, as a pro cellist, if I could get away with charging the MU rates mentioned, I could retire much sooner than I intended! The problem is that in a highly competitive sector, someone will always charge less and in the current economic climate, clients and fixers will most always book the cheaper option. No point making a fuss with fixers, they just won't book you again. For one off orchestral gigs people can pay £100.00 all in, and for a String Quartet wedding gig, I'm lucky if I make £100.00 profit for a two hour set ..... just saying!
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